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:bulletblack: Failthé - Glenmore princess
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OSIDUS Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Hello! I have a question about inbreeding:

If you have a cat that's inbred 12% (Before inbreeding counted) will all of it's resulting cubs be at least 6% inbred?

I'm having trouble calculating this cat's inbreeding percentage...
Jian89 Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
No, luckily it's not like that :) If it would be that easy to calculate, we would have 50% more inbred litters then we have now :roll:
As already said in the inbreeding journal 0% X 0% doesn't mean your cubs are also 0%.
Neither is 12% X 0% gonna result in 6%.

Inbreeding is calculated between the relation ship that sire and dam have to each other.
Simply said, if sire and dam have no blood relation, the cubs are gonna be 0% inbred. If the sire and dam have at least 1 common ancester (same father, same grandsfather, ...) the cubs are gonna have some inbred %. The amount depends on how closely related they will be.
So a breeding between a sire and dam who share the same great-grandfather is gonna be less heavy, so almost zero, compared when you breed full siblings to each other.

To give the example with the cub you give.
The real inbred % of your cub is 3.90625%, no 0% (as given with the litter info. Yeah for people who calculate their % wrong. I think I checked 75% of the October breedings ... but I really wasn't planning to control 375 breedings ... I am not crazy. To bad that some people get wrong info by that. That's why it's important to really check the lineage and not mindless copy it over)

Narmer's % is 
Doppio's % is 3.90625%

So acording to a classic calculation the cub 'should' be 3,515625%.
Yet is 
3.90625%. Reason: The 'relation' between Narmer and Doppio is Imhotep as great-grandsire and Nefertiti + 6th as great-great-grandmother's.
Yet the further this 'relation' is from the cub, the less effect it has. If Imhotep had been the grand-sire on both sides for example, the inbred% would have been higher.

I see many people add on older cat's that it's 0% (for example) yet honestly, the % on the cat doesn't matter anymore when the cat is already in use. Because as said, 0% X 0% isn't always 0%. 
You can have a litter that is 0%, yet if you breed brother with sister from that litter, you are directly gonna have 25%.
So 0% X 0% would turn out into 25%.
We already tested if you would breed a 39% to a 0%, YET with the 0% haveing no common ancestor that you would get clean cubs.
Reason: sire and dam don't have a common ancestor, so no inbred. Inbred in dam herself no longer matters, inbred in sire itself no longer matters. Only the relation between mother and father will affect the cub.

I can only say that's it's important to calculate for each litter carefully. If you don't see any double name between sire and dam, then there is no problem. From the moment there is 1 name common, you need to calculate. 

Yet next time, please send a note ^^; As I like to keep my profile clean and prefer to handle these in private. Otherwise I have 100 of such comment 'decorating' my profile :roll: don't want to look like an helpdesk.
atoxicrose Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Here's Voodoo's new ref:
Voodoun Prince De Laroche by atoxicrose
Thought you'd might like to see. :D
orengel Featured By Owner Edited Oct 19, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Failthe Pixel by RayeSesshyFan FREE flying hearts IconAccaloni Pixel by RayeSesshyFan
Jian89 Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
eeekkk :la: :squee:
orengel Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ace118 Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2015
I just could not help myself for Shyama / Doe / Herdmember possibly :D if you do not use them see if other BW players want them 
Jian89 Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The top left and top right really look nice ^^
Ace118 Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2015
Thank you :D 
bluediscord Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2015  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Thank you for the fave! :)
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